# Any Cool DSX 4+2 Scale ideas?

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**Created:** [July 18, 2026, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/any-cool-dsx-4-2-scale-ideas/98862 "2026-07-18T18:39:25Z")
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#### Post date: [July 18, 2026, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/any-cool-dsx-4-2-scale-ideas/98862/1 "2026-07-18T18:39:25Z")

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Hey there - I’ve really been exploring the 4+2 scalar geometry a la Metronomic rock as of late. Anybody made some interesting discoveries along these lines there that they might want to share?

EDIT;

Here I am, with another instalment of “bore everyone to death” - Thought I’d write a bit about how I went about learning these scale shapes - maybe someone finds it helpful.!

So getting used to the err “geometry” of this approach is taking some doing. A bit of LH stuff and RH things to get used to; certainly a lot different than the regular “3NPS” or “in position” scales we’re all used to. My strategy starts with familiarity first and foremost - I consider scales an scalework in general to be a “pool of notes to draw from” so getting my brain and my instincts acclimated to this 4+2 idea is helpful in an “additive” sort of way - it’s just another way to get to know the neck in a different context. One that is conducive to how I pick, DSX, even notes per string (Although of course the even ups thing works for USX!)

So my first steps are this; **1)** Learn the damn scale fingerings in one key (C Major is a good starting point). Don’t worry about speed initially - that will come later, I know that this note layout will be successful being played quickly so speed development isn’t a priority - _familiarity is_.  
**2)** Pick a fingering to focus on and get “good at”. I’ll start with C major starting from the 6th degree, or you could call it an Aeolian layout I guess. practice as 16ths ascending and descending, and in all 12 keys. I like to go in cycle of 4ths and pay attention to the actual notes in said keys. So thick this;  
**CFBbEb AbDbGbB EADG**  
**3)** Same as number 2 all 12 keys in cycle of 4ths - _only_ descending from the high E - Basically the starting note is the 5th, so you need to know what the “5th” is of each key. Key of C, starts on a G, key of F, starts on a C, key of Bb starts on an F etc etc. This way we aren’t chained to just root notes, and we have an additional reference interval getting burned into our minds from with in the scale geometry.  
**4)** Same as number 3, only ascending. Root notes are easier so I leave the easy work to the end.

This gets me started on getting used to new pathways. There’s more stuff I do to get used to a new chord/scale/arpeggio/sequence or whatever but this is a good starting point I find.

 ![4+2 Aeolian Form - Scalework#1](https://forum.troygrady.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/81391cd4122a909d0908a65e0426d7387852be33.png)