# Are the new guitarists better than 80s guitarists?
**URL:** https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895
**Category:** General Music Discussion
**Created:** [June 3, 2022, 7:57am UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895 "2022-06-03T07:57:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Twangsta](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/Twangsta)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/68 "2022-06-03T19:00:27Z")
He shouldn’t be talking technique 😆
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### Author:  [@cmcgee11235](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/cmcgee11235)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/69 "2022-06-03T19:02:37Z")
Jason Richardson’s solo work is pretty inspired by EDM and honestly videogame/cinema compositions
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7T0TPBYGjs)
If you listen to that and go back to this little exercise over a Zedd song you can see the influence in several parts [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlGxbMMmsGQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlGxbMMmsGQ)
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### Author:  [@cmcgee11235](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/cmcgee11235)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/70 "2022-06-03T19:11:19Z")
Also, there still isn’t enough Tosin Abasi content in this thread
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTi9y2-VnNY)
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ihqT1aA4Q88/maxresdefault.jpg "Tosin Abasi of Animals As Leaders performs, "Song of Solomon" on EMGtv") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihqT1aA4Q88)
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### Author:  [@joebegly](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/joebegly)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/71 "2022-06-03T19:11:22Z")
> [@Interestedoz](#):
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> (a) Show me one new guitarist that is of the same skill and soloing ability as Yngwie (1983/84) as demonstrated on the Alcatrazz album?
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VMsEIj2Dak)
https://www.youtube.com/embed/MoUurJMalxs?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5hZTsY-tf1s/hqdefault.jpg "Igor Paspalj - Yngwie Malmsteen "Monster Medley"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hZTsY-tf1s)
I love Yngwie. Total innovator and clearly a genius. In terms of “skill” though (and this may be opinion, but we’re all being very nice and respectful so I’ll offer my opinion lol!) I just don’t think Yngwie ever had chops like Igor. 240 bpm 16ths??? I’ve never heard it if he’s done it.
But of course, without Yngwie there would be no Igor lol! It’s like when pro athletes win a championship and say “I’ve gotta thank my mom!!!”. Without their mom, they simply wouldn’t exist lol!
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### Author:  [@Tom\_Gilroy](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/Tom_Gilroy)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/72 "2022-06-03T19:13:42Z")
> [@anon25405869](#):
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> I think Guthrie could play that solo, yes.
I can only say that after having studied the mechanics of both players, I don’t believe he could.
> [@anon25405869](#):
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> He would never do it though because it’s very unmusical and is a pure athletic feat, not tasteful playing.
This has nothing to do with my question.
I’m quite sure Scott Henderson wouldn’t want to play that solo either, but I’m equally sure that he couldn’t whether he wanted to or not.
Also, @Twangsta and @Ghoststrat , I love Tribal Tech and Scott’s solo albums too!
> [@anon25405869](#):
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> He loves Shawn lane, but if you asked Guthrie in private what he thinks of that solo, he’d say it’s drivel.
If we’re going by hearsay and what Guthrie might say in private, I have one for you. A personal friend of mine (who is a Shawn Lane fanatic) took private lessons from Guthrie, and asked him about Shawn. I’m told by my friend that Guthrie considers Shawn to have been very far ahead of him in some ways. However, I’ve never met Guthrie and can’t claim that what my friend conveyed to me is true.
> [@guitarenthusiast](#):
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> The first minute and change of this video makes me laugh out loud when I see it. The display of technique is so off-the-wall it’s insane lol. Top 3 guitar clips on YouTube for me easily
It’s an absolutely incredible display of mechanical capability.
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### Author:  [@Twangsta](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/Twangsta)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/73 "2022-06-03T19:14:02Z")
Would one consider this Stefen Shakinger a newer player? 2008 uploads onwards…
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTgxkQnQKjw)
and more recently:
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4prmRqlcDM)
I’d say he’s a strong case for refreshing compositions while not going off the rails. Adequate technique. I really like his writing.
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### Author:  [@Twangsta](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/Twangsta)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/74 "2022-06-03T19:18:34Z")
> [@joebegly](#):
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> Without their mom, they simply wouldn’t exist lol!
I always blame the first cell that divided, where ever that was 😆
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### Author:  [@guitarenthusiast](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/guitarenthusiast)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/75 "2022-06-03T19:18:54Z")
Used to listen to him all the time. Can’t miss this one either, especially the intro:
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH-ksko-2HQ)
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### Author:  [@Drew](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/Drew)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/76 "2022-06-03T19:22:16Z")
> [@Twangsta](#):
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> He shouldn’t be talking technique 😆
I think Satriani has earned the right to talk about whatever he pleases, without the likes of us second guessing him. 🤣
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### Author:  [@Twangsta](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/Twangsta)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/77 "2022-06-03T19:22:53Z")
His entire first album is pure gold. Didn’t want to post them all 😃
And you can buy his transcriptions too, talking about new talent, Rick Graham has a good body of original work as well.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjnd_NoaaXI)
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### Author:  [@bradejensen](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/bradejensen)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/78 "2022-06-03T19:23:22Z")
> [@cmcgee11235](#):
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> If you listen to that and go back to this little exercise over a Zedd song you can see the influence in several parts [Zedd (Shredd!) - ‘Addicted to a Memory’ Outro Guitar Cover - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlGxbMMmsGQ)
i remember this, i actually saw zedd, and i will say that concert was one of the best edm concerts i have been to thus far. I enjoyed it better than deadmau5.
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### Author:  [@joebegly](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/joebegly)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:25pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/79 "2022-06-03T19:25:46Z")
Shit. How TF has no one mentioned Rick Graham yet on this thread? What a beast.
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### Author:  [@Twangsta](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/Twangsta)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/80 "2022-06-03T19:26:44Z")
> [@Drew](#):
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> I think Satriani has earned the right to talk about whatever he pleases, without the likes of us second guessing him. 🤣
Meh… he’s mediocre, good entry level stuff, a few great tunes but I wouldn’t put him any where near the level of playing and composition expressed here, if popularity is a contest I’d be a priest of sorts. But to each his own man.
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### Author:  [@Tom\_Gilroy](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/Tom_Gilroy)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/81 "2022-06-03T19:35:09Z")
How many other guitar players mentioned in this thread have been immortalized as action figures?
[ ](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2572/7156/products/DSC_1696copy_1349x.jpg?v=1652121008)
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### Author:  [@Twangsta](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/Twangsta)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/82 "2022-06-03T19:37:25Z")
That’s hilarious man. I had a Satriani phase but then I discovered SRV, Greg Howe, MVP and Tribal Tech soon after. There was little connection. Not to mention Malmsteen, etc…
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### Author:  [@cmcgee11235](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/cmcgee11235)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/83 "2022-06-03T19:38:00Z")
Or since we’ve been studying his technique - Anton Oparin.
Here’s something fun, two Russians that could play Paul Gilbert as young teenagers
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_7KCB7AmgQ)
Max Ostro:
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb_Uj47N7jc)
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### Author:  [@joebegly](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/joebegly)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/84 "2022-06-03T19:41:00Z")
Ah yes I actually intentionally avoided mentioning him just because of recent history on here. Definitely though. His picking is insane. Not sure if anyone else mentioned on here can play some of the things that seem casual to him (like 1nps 16ths at 180bpm).
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### Author:  [@Drew](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/Drew)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/85 "2022-06-03T19:41:47Z")
Gotta agree to disagree - easily one of my favorites. And, I mean, this is a thread _about_ Satriani, specifically what he thinks about the next generation of players. Odd place to call him "mediocre.:
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### Author:  [@cmcgee11235](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/cmcgee11235)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/86 "2022-06-03T19:43:45Z")
Hopefully everyone learned their lesson since that thread has been going much more smoothly lol - and he’s a great example as someone who built upon PG’s technique adding his own escapes
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### Author:  [@Twangsta](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/Twangsta)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/are-the-new-guitarists-better-than-80s-guitarists/55895/87 "2022-06-03T19:44:53Z")
Yeah Drew, the irony, my apologies. Peace.
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