# Disciplined practice "routine" vs intuitive jamming etc

**URL:** https://forum.troygrady.com/t/disciplined-practice-routine-vs-intuitive-jamming-etc/7214
**Category:** Playing Technique
**Created:** [November 25, 2018, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/disciplined-practice-routine-vs-intuitive-jamming-etc/7214 "2018-11-25T23:17:49Z")
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### Author: ![JonJon](https://forum.troygrady.com/user_avatar/forum.troygrady.com/jonjon/32/2147_2.png) [@JonJon](https://forum.troygrady.com/u/JonJon)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://forum.troygrady.com/t/disciplined-practice-routine-vs-intuitive-jamming-etc/7214/7 "2018-11-26T22:18:24Z")

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yeah its pretty crazy to again be in a very strong learning curve after 30 yrs (btw, thanks for opening up new ideas for me 4ish yrs ago)

the catch though is that while the “intuitive” approach IS probably great for slowly extrapolating outward from what I know (nice scale work, tight little sequences, string bending etc)…there are some things that I dont think ill ever really get without some serious discipline.

for example 4 and 5 string arpeggios, especially when they are strung together…Vinnie Moore style pedal point licks…stuff like Yngwies arps in Rising Force etc

while my playing is strong in certain ways, one conspicuous missing element would be something like Jake E Lee outro to Bark at the Moon or virtually any other long sort of flashy lines

if I started a line like that it would break down and id land on my feet and maybe nobody would know but it leaves a hole in my playing

(Im just thinking out loud here lol)

edit, more thinking out loud…sounds almost like Im not using “chunking” at all come to think of it

another example

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