Far Beyond the Sun lick

You probably just mis-typed 12-13-12-9 (and moved the whole thing down one fret to sound right in standard tuning). It’s the same as the shape from the old Wolf Marshall transcription and perpetuated online through places like Ultimate Guitar. The picking is YJM-consistent. It’s just not where he plays the notes in this case.

That’s really interesting. I’m working on the other picking pattern too. It’s a lot tougher for me to play it up to speed.

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What is your picking? Looks like we learnt a similar pattern. After slowing down the original version it does seem like more notes are picked than I originally anticipated

Where did you get this tab ?

When I first went through CTC volcano, I had the run as per below for DWPS pure alternate picking (not saying I think Yngwie playes it this way just applies DWPS concept)

13-14-13-10 (legato or d u d u)
14-12-10-9 (d u d u)
11-10 (d u)
12-11-9-7 (d u d u)
11-9-8 (d u d)

Probably not the easiest, but at the time I got it quite slick. Now I just do this with 2WPS
13-14-13-10 up (legato)
14-12-10 ( d u d)
13-11-10 (u d u)
12-11-9 ( d u d)
12-11-9-8 ( u d u d)

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Is there a prize for the 1st person to post a video playing all the above permutations at song tempo? :wink:

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From the video it is clear that there is a shift on the second string, not the third string.

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I’ve been working on transcribing the whole thing - about 1/2 done so far:

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There are sections in this track where you gotta just wing it :smiley:

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Ive been getting back into guitar only to find out some of the apps can now give such clarity when slowing down the tempo. Ive been trying to figure out a similar style solo fill lick in the song icarus dream sweet at 3:54. This is the fingering i came up with always use index middle ring fingers

uwps if picking every note.

Eb 15 14 12 11 > d u d u > r,m,i,i
Bb 13 12 10 > u d u > r,m,i
Gb 12 11 9 8 > u d u d > r,m,i,i
Db 10 9 7 > u d u > r,m,i
Ab 10 9 7 6 > u d u d > r,m,i,i
Eb 8 7 5 3 2 > u d u d u > r,m,i,i,i

the full economy picked version of the path ive laid out for this lick is the fastest i can do it. i havent found another way to speed it up. the next step would be swybrid probably. but i have to slant upward to really get it flowing fast that way the u d u d, that last down is the reason you need uwps so the pick wont get stuck beneath the strings by dwps.

and the cool thing about this method is you can change up the steps and make it major and play the scale fast also like this

Eb tuning

Eb 16,14,12,11 > d,u,d,u > p,m,i,i
Bb 14,12,10 > u,d,u > p,m,i
Gb 13,11,9,8 > u,d,u,d > p,m,i,i
Db 11,9,7 > u,d,u > p,m,i
Ab 11,9,7,6 > u,d,u,d > p,m,i,i
Eb 9,7,5,4,2 > u,d,u,d,u > p,m,i,i,i

And! open Eb major chord XD then the yngwie 5 string sweep chord then the dun dun dun thing haha you get it.

most likely it could be ascended with downward pickslanting so maybe we should work on that economized scale pathway next. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Should sound like the first lick but without the last note I like to add, marked it as a ghost note in the tab.

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This shift is on the second string not the third, watch the video in slow motion.

I’ve nailed it :rofl:

Haha!! Is that a Reb Beach signature???

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No, Mayones Hydra. I would love a Reb Beach sig though!

I saw this topic the other day and tried to play the lick but really struggled. I realised that the problem (for me at least) was that it’s not a lick you can practice constantly as it doesn’t cycle. Thus, I made a larger ascending-descending version of the lick that allows you to loop it and get a better feel for it and also provides practice for ascending DWPS practice. This has certainly worked for me now I can get it cleanish at 160 BPM after warming up from 100 BPM in 10 BPM increments to get the sync working. The full exercise (transposed to A harmonic minor = E phyrgian dominant) is:

Low E: 12d
A: 11d (swept), 12u, 14d, 15u
D: 12d, 14u, 15d
G: 13d (swept), 14u, 16d, 17u
B: 15d, 17u, 18d
High E: 16d (swept), 17u, 16p
B: 18d, 17u, 15d, 13u
G: 16d, 14u, 13p
D: 15d, 14u, 12p
A: 15d, 14u, 12d, 11u
Low E: 12d (starting note, loop from here)

I hope this will exercise will come in useful to the members here too! Cheers.

Resurrecting an old thread. Is there a consensus on the “correct” way to play this lick? I’m having a hard time getting the kind of articulation I want if I do 13-14-13 on the E string and then 15-14-12 on the B string. That start just feels weird, but if that’s how it’s played I’ll keep cracking at it.

That’s how I do it. :slight_smile:

I’d recommend using the first two fingers on the high E if you aren’t already doing that. I hadn’t done that in the past, but then I realised I was visualising the wrong scale box, and that the scale on that string is 13-14-(16) for a 1-2-(4 or 3) fingering.

That matters because in 6 bars time your going to be playing a variation in the fast descending lick:

and it make more sense to my brain to play it the same way every time. It also pops up a bit later in a few places of course.

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I see what you’re saying. Today I started playing it 14-13-10 on the E string and then 14-12 on the B string, which feels really good and fluid and I can even pick every note if I want except the one legato note on the second to last string. But I haven’t gotten to the longer descending lick yet and yeah I see that this might be a problem since that fingering won’t really carry over. I’m bummed now! Ha

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Here’s my take on it; though it’s not the best take :joy:

I used to do that too! I gotta tell you I had a heck of a time switching it for precisely the same reason @Big_Jim_Slade mentioned eventually.

Tip about that longer descending lick you will encounter, keep your index finger planted and slide along the string when you encounter it, it’s what Malmsteen does and it really helps speed up the learning curve on it. I wish I was more attentive to his left hand when I started learning this tune.

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