Tempo and String-hopping Question

PS, your stuff sounds really awesome, Joe! Well done, man!

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Thanks dude. I have a ways to go but I have come a ways too and good or bad, there’s rarely a day I don’t enjoy playing. Such a fun instrument we have.

I felt bad after hearing you say you were going to just hybrid pick it. Nothing wrong with that but I believe you can conquer dbx. Just remember…it’s “a trick” we have to teach our hands. If I can “sort of do it” there’s no reason stopping anyone else.

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Naw, nothing to feel bad about! If anything, it should be me that feels bad for torturing poor Tommo! hahaha poor guy… :grimacing:

I don’t know, dude - I think that your “sort of doing it” sounds pretty awesome. I think you’ll really be doing even more cool stuff with it as time goes.

I’ve been hybrid picking for a while, it comes quite naturally and I can already play Tumeni with it; I also have a fairly tragic “sweep” version.

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Thanks for that tip. Once I dive into this sort of playing again, which is inevitable, I will remember this approach.

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@Scottulus 2 comments:

  1. generally speaking, you don’t have a string-hopping problem. You have plenty motions that go fast enough!

  2. I would really like to see / hear your hybrid picked approach to Tumeni. I don’t really see why hybrid picking should be considered a somewhat less desirable skill than “playing all the notes with the pick” :slight_smile:

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Oh Tommo, I must have misunderstood? I thought your post earlier in this thread meant that I am hopping?

Sure I can put together a clip of hybrid picked Tumeni this weekend. It works, and it’s a very, very powerful tool I wouldn’t trade for anything but there’s a sort of rhythmic peculiarity that comes with multiple finger hybrid picking.

DBX is another colour I’d like to have access to if that makes sense…?

That was why I embarked. For years I was a snob and thought I didn’t need to waste my efforts on a technique I already “had” since I’m a strong fingerstyle player. Fast picked arpeggios? No problem!!! I cannot get the same articulation fingerstyle that I can get crosspicking though, it’s a different color in the palette for sure.

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Definitely curious what @tommo replies but as this is a public forum, I’ll add what I think: what you posted was not string hopping but if the absolute fastest you can make it go is a good 40BPM below the target tempo, there is a lack of efficiency in the motion. You may be able to do some crosspicking things with it at lower tempos, but the motion itself is just not maximally efficient. Continuing to practice with it likely won’t speed it up because it’s maxed out. Now, if you told me you can move this particular motion at the target speed but it’s an absolute trainwreck…that’s a different story. That means the motion is good but there are accuracy issues and accuracy issues are a different ball game than a speed limit.

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@Scottulus sorry I did not mean to confuse you — see what @joebegly just said :slight_smile:

When I said you don’t have a string-hopping problem, I meant that you do have at least some motions that go fast.

I would say someone has a stringhopping problem if they have no way whatsoever of picking fast, even on a single string.

I can do a sloppy version, same motion at 208 (8th triplets) no problem; Then there IS a potential for success with this…

Apologies, I am dense… confused easily. Old age I would suspect…

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Lots of great advice here!

@Scottulus how do you fare with something like the intro to Technical Difficulties, or even Cult of Personality?

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Yeah, a really awesome thread - good info.

Actually, I played both of those tunes quite a bit and never really had a problem with either one. I might have to take another look, there’s always stuff that needs work, polishing etc. But really, once you get past having to practice the crap out of those riffs, it’s not too bad! lol

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