“Another Day” solo

General Music Discussion
#37

Definitely agree with that! Thanks for doing this for me.

At the end of the day, I’ve got what I want…I can recreate the attitude of this run, and I’ve got the mechanics and engineering to facilitate the speeds I couldn’t even fathom back when I was playing with exclusively UWPS.

I’m back to scratching my head on the exact notes he was going for though haha. I’ve been practicing it like I posted above

But the first 6 notes ‘sound’ more like this:
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He’s too ‘worked out’ of a player to write something that sloppy with the repeated A# on the g string, so he was probably doing the chromatic thing I originally posted. I think the rest of it is pretty clearly accurate and I got what I’m hearing with this slowed down isolated track.

In summary:
Maybe some things in life just aren’t meant to be known…maybe after 20 years of wrestling with this on and off I’ve put it on a pedestal…in either case I’ve beaten this dead horse to dust.

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#38

I’m inclined to agree, but one thing I would say is that when the album (Images and Words) was recorded they were not as big a band as they went on to be. There may have been pressures to get the record completed, in a more rushed fashion. They probably heard that the solo sounded great and moved on and were in less of in a position to scrutinise every note as they can now.

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#39

Absolutely. I’m not knocking him, trust me! It sounds awesome at full speed! I probably shouldn’t have used the word ‘sloppy’ and instead called it un-synchronized.

#40

Haha, I get ya buddy - but that is sloppy for JP!

#41

So how near are you to getting it up to tempo? I too have always wanted to do this solo, but never could get anywhere near the speed needed. Maybe its time to try again!!!

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#42

Right now I’m at about 116 - 120bpm sextuplets. I’m still new to DWPS, but back in the day when I was playing a lot, I’d usually peak alternate picked sextuplets at ~112bpm so I’m happy with my progress. I really haven’t played my electric guitars much the past 4 years and just got back into it around mid January this year when I got my membership to CtC. So far, for me, the secret sauce is the swiping. Also, since I grew up on Rock Discipline and always did the gradual metronome thing, I’m trying Troy’s suggestion of starting at the fast speeds, nailing it a couple times and then putting the guitar down. Seems to be working! Hopefully before 2020 is over I’ll have at 140bpm. Fingers crossed!

Changing pick slant to accommodate swiping
#43

Cool, I’m in a similar ballpark speed-wise, but trying to 2WPS - it is so hard to crack the last 20bpm! Lol

Good luck!!! I’m sure you will get their pretty soon- don’t forget to post a vid or two to show the progress!

#44

Yep, when it’s all ready to go I’ll put something up.

I think when I first heard about swiping I thought it was cheating and was trying everything with 2WPS. I couldn’t really get the swiping working using my UWPS, so I sort of gave up. When I started trying to get decent at DWPS I re-visited swiping and one day it just clicked. I couldn’t hear it or feel it, so I knew I was on the right track. It’s now my go-to for these ascending 6’s. Let me know how the 2WPS goes!

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#45

Yeah, I definitely swipe some for sure - not by design, but I’m less bothered by it. If it sounds good, it is good.

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#46

If you asked me to play this solo live, due to the high speed I would totally cheat and replace the fast ascending lick with something DSX-only :slight_smile:

The target tone is 95% of the lick in my opinion!

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#47

It’s pretty fast!! I think that’s where my obsession with this lick started. Out the stuff I was listening to back then, I’m pretty sure this was the fastest alternate picked run I’d ever heard at that point. And the way he used it to build up tension to that high note is just…wow. Beautiful!

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#48

Which fast run do you mean?

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Becoming a virtuoso
#49

The ONLY fast run lol! Should be queued up:

There was a pretty lengthy discussion about it here:

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#50

It doesn’t look challening, at first I was thinking about the descending lick at the end, that sounds difficult to me.

#51

Oh I’m sure you could play the run I’m talking about without issue. I’m a different story :slight_smile: I’m nowhere near your speeds.

Funny, for me the descending thing at the end with the big intervallic leaps was always a piece of cake. I think I played that like this, just DSX economy, since the slides give plenty of time hop over to the high E string

-----21-------19-------16-------|
--19----19\17----17\14----14\12-| etc
  D   U  U     U  U     U  U
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#52

BTW @gabrielthorn if you give it a try (the fast ascending 6’s), let me know how you make out. There are places where it’s not very nice for pure DSX. After you play the initial 2 groups of 6’s and cross from the G to the B string, you’ll be trapped so you either need a helper motion or…USX and swiping all the way :slight_smile:

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#53

Swiping all the way :rofl: :joy:

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#54

Ha! Nice! I can’t see your picking hand, how are you getting to your final sextuplet?

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I get how you MAB swipe the stuff on the D/G strings. You’d have to swipe an inside string change where I’ve circled though (or use some sort of helper motion to get over it without hopping)

#55

That’s where I’m swiping through, exactly. However, I’m NOT swiping on upstroke changes when I go to lower strings.

I only swipe when I’m ascending.

#56

Huh. That is different than my understanding of the way Troy explains swiping. I always thought they were for ‘outside’ string changes and didn’t work on the ‘inside’ string changes. But hey, I can’t argue with the results :slight_smile: You sound great!

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