Anton Oparin new video

Hi guys, have you seen Anton’s new video? The part that interests me the most is when he talks about his school and some images appears, regarding his pick motion and a “4334” concept… any clue about what that means?

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I thought about posting this yesterday. I particularly dug the nasty pattern Anton plays starting around 1:02.

I recall that image you mention but don’t remember where it was in the video - not sure what that was about. Might not even really be about anything, as he likes to be secretive with his methods. haha

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Oh man, that guy is awesome at picking. He really has it dialled in, doesn’t he?

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Wouldn’t that be 433? Though you are generally correct, he is referring to strings, but I think it’s essentially DSX 2 notes per string.

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No, he’s doing one note on the D and 2 on the G…so, if you interpret it this way it’s 433… i don’t think that these numbers refers to the strings, otherwise it would be “easy” DSX all the time…

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Here are the images from the video…

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Why switching from DSX to USX if the number of note per strings is even? I’ don’t really believe that he’s referring to strings with these numbers…

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Now THIS is some good news :smiley:

I was considering doing another TC just to specifically ask about your mixed escape playing lol. Will wait a bit and see what’s coming.

For some reason I have a horrible time figuring out the approach angle, exact motion, and anchor point for the trapped portion of this sort of playing.

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I understand, but if he’s referring to the strings he should call this 433, not 4334… that’s why i don’t believe the numbers are referred to the strings…

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Thank you for the video!
So you’re doing 433 with the transition from DSX to USX, and it’s what i do, and it seems to be what Anton does, fine!
But why does he call it 4334 when it’s 433 instead??? This to me is the mistery, and i suspect that there’s more to it… i believe that the numbers that he use does not refers to the number of the strings…IMHO

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If I understood Joao correctly, “433” would indicate a different picking pattern than “4334.” The former switches escape after every iteration; the latter can be performed with either all USX (starting on an upstroke) or all DSX (starting on a downstroke).

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I also suspect the string numbers are to have a single notation for “pick this string then that string” in any combination, and 43343434334 or whatever is just an example. However,

I mistrust all systematizers and avoid them. the will to a system is a lack of integrity.
-Nietzsche

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Anyone here who can play that pattern, starting at about 0:32, at the speed he ends it with?
No way for me…It’s insane!

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I think any USX player can do this, maybe even faster, and in a less “complicated” way. Or even a pure DSX player, if they play two notes on the lowest string and one on the highest (with sweep). But if you’re talking about pure alternate picking, just the right hand, well, I think I can do that too:

Again, if you’re referring to just the right hand, this is exactly the same pattern he’s doing in the clip (433 433).
Also, this is 2wps, so guys who master USX and DSX can probably do it too, like Troy and Tommo. Oh, and swiping can do this too, of course, with 2wps.

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I am very much looking forward to the advanced 2WPS content you alluded to earlier. :slight_smile:

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In take my hat off to you sir!
You are just about the only one i know off who comes close to Anton’s alternate picking abilities.

Off course with downward pickslanting and sweep picking this pattern it is easy to do, but that sounds very different from alternate picking.

I can’t do it with alternate picking using 433 at those speeds. However, the strange thing is that i come close when changing the pattern to 443.
Don’t know why that is…. Have to figure that out and keep trying.

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Interesting. So I don’t really understand Anton’s naming conventions - I assume it’s “his” thing for his school. Cool, he’s very gifted and clever so that’s awesome! Sadly, yeah I don’t really understand it… Well, I barely “almost” understand it! hahaha Complicated! I’d probably trade a kidney to pick like Troy or Joao667 or Anton, but it’s quite unlikely that will happen. Still, every now and then a glimmer of hope arises!

So basically, we are theorizing that he is using an escape until said escape doesn’t work, and then he changes. So DSX and USX. I messed with that a bit tonight and got some traction out of EJ 5’s and some other stuff, but I do wonder how he makes that work for 1 NPS stuff? Does he sort of “flip-flop” his pickslanting/escape in such a way that if he/you/I are playing something like this;

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Then we would have to go (DSX) D (roll to usx) U (roll to dsx) D (roll to usx) U (roll to dsx)

It’s the “roll” from dsx to usx (or usx to dsx) that seems… um kind of not very intuitive. (ugh whhhyyyy did I read this thread… hahaha)

First post here, my name is Joel! Just want to say I love to see the Anton discussion here - one of my favorite alternate pickers! :sunglasses:

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Speaking of that, @Joao667 is it a forearm-wiggle that performs the DSX/USX switch or is that also more a wrist thing?

I thought about this too. One possible idea why they feel different: the two versions differ in they way in which the change of escape (and potentially associated change in pickslanting) occurs. Basically whether the change occurs during an inside/outside string change and/or whether the change occurs on a downstroke or upstroke. I may film a short explanation at some point when I get good enough at both versions :slight_smile:

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