Hi, i play the gilbert descending sixies with DSX but with DWPS, just because it feels too weird for me starting a descending pattern with the first note being an upstroke.
Same for ascending but in reverse, i use USX but with an UWPS.
So it seems contrary to the cracking the code logic, but it feels good for me.
Does anyone does the same in some way?
Cheers.
I think you might have some of the terminology here a little mixed up. Typically, Gilbert Sixes (the way Gilbert does them) always start with a downstroke, regardless if they’re ascending or descending. He plays pretty neutral, as far as pickslant goes, and the entire thing is DSX (the string changes are always after a downstroke).
DSX (downstroke escape) with DWPS (downward pickslanting) doesn’t really work - the downstroke would slide off the string fairly easy (low resistance), but the upstroke would snag on it (high resistance, called “garage spikes” here). That prevents alternate picking from working well. And the opposite is true for USX with UWPS - upstrokes now have little resistance, downstrokes get garage spikes.
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That’s the thing even if it looks wrong, for me it works perfectly, for exemple when i descend, i am in DSX and DWPS so the last note of the sixes is a downstroke and i don’t even feel a high resistance when i arrive on the b string. I’ve tried the other way, descending with an USX and DWPS and yes i feel less resistance when i switch strings but it feels to weird to start a descending pattern with a downstroke. And the resistance i feel on string transition with the not so logic one is really low at high speed. The same for 3nps alternate picking scales, DWPS UWPS, doesn’t matter, as long as the first note of the pattern is the same as the direction of the line it doesn’t affect my playing at all feelingwise. Does anyone does the same?
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Andy Wood is DSX at high speed with slight DWPS. Slant allows for his DBX at slower tempos
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Damn crazy speed man!
Your hand position kinda looks like DWPS but your pick is angled forward a lot so I think your pick position is actually pretty neutral, I’ve heard @Troy refer to this kind of pick set up as maximum mouse because it allows you to use almost all the efficiency of RDT in a small mouse grip.
As regards to the escape your motion is creating it looks DSX and you are swiping the upstroke string changes Paul Gilbert style, it sounds killer 
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Good speed! Jacklr’s assessment seems correct to me. I’ll just add that what you’re playing isn’t Gilbert Sixes, by the book - there should only be three notes on the first string, and then six on all the others, whether you’re ascending or descending.
How about the ascending version where you say you use upward pickslanting with USX - what does that look like?
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Thanks a lot for the replies, for the ascending, after re-analysing myself, i realized i was mistaken, i use DSX not USX with only 3 notes on the first string, but i can use DWPS or UWPS. That’s what i love about this community, each time a learn something.And thanks to Riffdiculous i ve learned a better way soundingwise for descending, it sounds better the way Paul does it starting with only 3 notes, i was doing it already ascending but not descending for some reason. And now i know that pick slant is kind of neutral, it gives me a good reference point, thanks a lot guys
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In fact no, i tried like Paul and again it feels to weird for me too start a descending line with an up stroke. I am the only one to be tied to the direction of the line?It matters much more to me than the slant for execution…
The original pattern does start on a downstroke and is all DSX. I’m struggling to understand how you got to the conclusion that the first note should be an upstroke for this pattern.
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If you start with USX, it would be an upstroke to begin. I think that is what @adrienblancke may mean?
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