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#284

Somewhere in my classical circles I encountered a cool trick for position shifts in general. The suggestion was to practice the shift in isolation (surprise to no one lol!), but to also practice it by doing repetitions intentionally going a fret too high as well as repetitions intentionally going a fret too low. The thinking is all that attention just really drills in the fret you really need to be on, since you’re now devoting time to intentionally ‘missing’ the shift.

How well that translates to these shredding speeds, I don’t know :slight_smile: It was more a thing for complex chordal passages where the shifts were drastic or difficult. Maybe it will work in this context though.

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#285

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I’m talking about this run @Pepepicks66

#286

Looks cool, don’t have the guitar on me at the moment but looks like it could be reworked fret-wise if you wanted. What’s the part that’s messing with you the most?

#287

Going strong @gabrielthorn! Also your tone and vibrato have much improved.

I think we should all stop helping you :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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#288

Thanks @tommo :smiley: I think we should all help each other on this forum :innocent:

I’ve been practicing the run, isolating the chunk of 12 notes and landing on the first of the next chunk. Also shifting it a bit, starting on the second group if sixes and playing 12 notes, but ending on a different part. Feels much more comfortable but it’s still a monster run to pull off after those arpeggios.

Tried a different fingering, converting the lick to only shift strings after downstrokes but it’s hard to use the second finger on the high e string after ending that arpeggio so I stick to the original fingering.

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#289

Exactly the sort of run I like to play, or try, no way as fast as you tho good job dude ! I’m just getting back into JP again, so many cool solos to study.

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#290

Thank you mate. Today I’ve managed to pull off the solo slightly above the original tempo many times (it’s at 138 and I practiced at 140), but I wouldn’t say it’s consistent yet.

These Petrucci runs with position shifts are a nightmare for me, when I started learning guitar, all the licks I made up had duplicated notes on position shifts intentionally (I liked the way it sounded and it felt natural). So this is new stuff for me.

#291

Too lazy to search through the thread right now, but you’ve done Erotomania and other “position shift heavy” stuff, no?

#292

Erotomania never felt difficult regarding position shifts, it was always about the string skipping for me.

I had exactly the same problem with “This dying soul”, and I started learning the solo of “Invisible monster”, that run at the end is a real mess, group of 7s played as 32nd notes at 106…

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#293

A take at original tempo. Not perfect by any means, but not terrible either.

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#294

This sounds awesome, can’t comment on how accurate it is since I’ve never heard the song, but you could tell me it’s JP playing and I’d believe it lol.

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#295

I can clearly feel and hear the mistakes/issues with timing, but I’m quite happy with this after 2 days of practicing. So thank you for your comment :innocent: Maybe playing the guitar is not a lost cause for me :rofl:

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#296

If you keep saying that after posting insane quality shred, I may have to ban you :rofl: :rofl:

Obvs joking, and I know you are too, but be careful because people who are less advanced than you might be very discouraged by the combination of awesome playing and negative comments about it :wink:

Keep in mind the guitar is a “dirty” instrument and Petrucci himself is not that clean when he plays these things live!

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#297

He’s still much cleaner and faster for sure, but he’s been playing for decades… I’d be still a happy person if I could achieve my lifetime goal and nail the Train of thought stuff one day, but that’s still way beyond my abilities. It requires an insane amount of stamina and speed. And they played everything even faster live compared to the album version. :woozy_face:

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#298

I say this with all respect to JP since he’s the reason I got into this anyways: you’re at a level that you’re comparable in cleanliness and speed. There are eras that I think he was just insanely on point, but I haven’t seen that from him in a minute.

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#299

I can honestly say that there are way too many JP songs I wouldn’t even dare to touch. Paradigm shift, Acid Rain, Train of thought material, the octave madness in the beginning of Lost, not forgotten… I could make a very very long list. I lack consistency and stamina. I feel my picking is much more sustainable and relaxed since February but these runs are still insanely fast, usually in the 200-210 bpm 16th notes/140-150 bpm sextuplets range and they are very long… If anyone knows what drugs he was using in the Train of thought era, I’m all ears.

#300

I think the chunking I started a few days ago has some results… Finally I can play this run at original tempo :sweat_smile::sweat_smile: I think I’m having a happy day.

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#301

I think I’m stringpicking and crosshopping.

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#302

That seems faster than the original ? Great job though I’m jealous because that solo is one of my life long challenges.
I have the tab book from years back and that sent me the wrong way on a lot of parts. I used to play that run years ago but not very well so ive started from zero this year having worked out which parts the book has wrong. I’m currently trying to do the arpeggio bits at the beginning again. Also I use my strat mostly so run out of frets for the next bit.

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#303

The original is 163 bpm, so this is 13 bpm slower actually. I gave it a go at 163 but could pull it off only a few times befire getting really tired with my right hand.

This is the first Satch song which caught my interest and it’s on my bucketlist now. There are so many terrible tab books around, I’m wondering how they got approved at all…