@AerithAngel I’m sure if you pay them enough, GC will do anything lol. That being said, the installation is really easy if you’re used to dealing with floating bridges. If you’re not, I would highly recommend you do so, since they impact playing a good amount (IMO more so than fixed) and paying for setups would get $$$.
If you’re going to get a floating tremolo system, you should absolutely learn the basics of setup and maintenance.
Read the section at Ibanez Rules:
https://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/index.htm
@Frylock’s suggestion of blocking the tremolo for dive only is a possibility, but I think if you set the springs tight enough to prevent detuning on double stop bends, the tremolo will probably feel quite stiff. Also, it’s likely a little awkward to do on a recessed tremolo like the Lo-Pro. Personally, I hate how dive only feels.
I don’t think I want dive only. I really just want my double stop bends to stay in tune. If I want to play drop-D I’ll get another hardtail at a later date. Changing strings will suck at first but I’m sure I can get used to it.
This is a video about the Tremmory which is really easy to install GUITAR GIMMICKS - Make your Floyd Guitar Perfect with Tremmory - YouTube
I understand that you don’t want dive only, but maybe give it a second thought.
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EVH is famous for his tremolo use. And except the steinberger transtrem on 5150 he always used his guitars dive only.
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Modifying a Floyd (LoPro, whatever, …) for dive only is absolutely reversible and only takes a piece of wood and a little double sided tape.
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By tightening the springs just enough so the trem stays in place during double bends solves your “problem” and keeps it fully functional for dive bombs. I never pull up anyway, the “Trem-flutter” is basically the only trick you loose.
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You can also adapt yout technique by also bending the stationary note slightly or pressing you palm on the floyd. I developed this trick (the first option) unconsciously and usually get by with it. Of course a tuner would prove me wrong, but those things usually appear in a blues context and don’t matter that much anyway
Just my 2 cents on the topic, Tom
I’ve played a Stratocaster for years with the 6 screw trem set up to pull up a semitone. Now wit a Strat I’ve never been in the habit of aggressive dives, but you can use it conservatively. I have used Floyd style guitars for the aggressive stuff, and I also have a Fender locking system guitar from the 80s…I’d suggest having both, one fixed and one floating and learn to use each. I will say with a Floyd you have to watch resting or palm muting your wrist on the bridge it is sensitive, and you can hear the guitar going sharp etc. with each you have to develop habits etc.
Here is the hardtail I ordered first. I am waiting for it to reach room temp so I can tune and try it out. The guitar with the trem is coming on Monday. I’m really hoping I can find a way to keep both paying them off quickly.
Fluence pickups, nice! Bet it’s a very cool guitar. There are many ways to block a 2 way trem. This is a personal choice, but if you can only have one, keep the trem model.
I’ve decided to take that route and keep the trem model when it comes Now to decide what to do with the trem. I’ve gotten lots of good suggestions here so far. Greatly appreciated!
Don’t know if you like SRV but maybe try to learn the Lenny head, it’s a great tune with a nice subtle vibrato to start with.
I’ve done a deep dive (pun intended) on tremolo stability and I found that the most critical aspect is how you tune it. A floating trem isn’t a hard tail and can’t be tuned like one. The goal is for it to be in tune when you release the bar, so that’s how you tune it. Dip the bar before you check the note. When its in tune after a bar reset, it stays that way. You can even refresh the tuning later by dipping the bar. My trem guitars stay in tune for days at a time.
I also use the Hipshot Tremsetter. Its a spring loaded zero return gadget, and stiffens the trem action but holds tune on double stops.
Don’t get me started on LSR roller nuts…
I’ve been looking at the Tremmory which is very similar to the Hipshot Tremsetter. I think I’ll order one. I have been playing the hardtail version I bought before I decided I wanted the tremolo while I wait for the one with the tremolo to come on Monday. The sustain is absolutely insane. If the two guitars weren’t so similar beside the bridge I’d probably try to find a way to pay off both.
I’ve heard this song before! While I’m generally not an SRV fan, it’s a very touching and beautiful song. I like it!
I remember looking at a bridge that used magnets to stop, double stop tuning issues, but I can remember the name… After a certain force the magnet let go.
Are they both the same except for the bridge, pickups to? Fluence?
They are the same except the bridge and pickups, yes. Well the RG5121 Hardtail has locking tuners too but I can’t think of much else different about them.
Can’t go wrong with either, I thought the pickups may have been different, the floating one didn’t have the fluence logos on it, maybe that plastic is obscuring it.
Well the Fluence are only on the hardtail.
I just placed an order for the Tremol-No on Amazon. I saw that Guitar Center sells them so I don’t think I’ll have any issue getting them to install one on my new guitar. Thank you everyone for your pointers!!