So in the video I basically describe what going on. I’m trying to find a tremolo that works. I don’t undertsand the tabletop tap test with flexsion/extension, does it not apply to a picking motion? Because I don’t see anywhere in the course that describes using that motion. The table knocking is definitely my fastest motion. I use to be a strictly wrist player but took a long hiatus and can’t get anywhere close now. It’s disheartening for sure…
but trying reverse dart motion, and forearm I can’t get anywhere close speed. I can from the forearm in the air but can’t apply it to the guitar especially with an anchor. And my only fast motion is an extreme dsx elbow motion with my palm completely flat which only works as a party trick. It’s impossible to actually use that motion for anything else besides tremolo. Maybe there’s something you guys can suggest or see that I can’t. Thanks!
This motion is RDT DSX wrist, but it sounds like you have to experiment with grip, pick point, and/or other positioning adjustments to avoid garage spikes. Be sure to watch how to take tap tests to guitar in the Primer. Troy even discusses how to trick yourself if this translation is proving diffcult.
The “tall mouse” motion is close, just with the arm rotated. But that’s not really why we put the door knocking motion in the tests. We just needed a motion that is easy enough to perform that most people can do it. This helps us rule out a universally low speed limit on all motions, which could be an indicator of any number of things going wrong.
I know what you mean. Elbow is easy for some players to learn as an on/off switch type of thing. But Rusty Cooley, Bill Hall, and Vinnie Moore are good examples of what is possible with elbow motion once you can learn to chunk it in groups. This is the key skill to make this motion useful. I would start by trying to slow it down very slightly and apply the chunking tricks from the Synchronicity seminar on a single note at at first.
You can also continue to experiment with other joint motions as a kind of side project. I just wouldn’t make this your number one all-day activity since it freezes your learning at an early stage and never lets you proceed to chunking and fretting.
So I do have an old video of me playing, really old. lol it’s a motion that worked for me but I can’t identify it or recreate it. Would you mind helping me figure out what it is? It may be able to help me get back to it!
It makes the short thinner visually so you can’t see the entire arm but if you need the video to see the whole arm just reach out!
Excellent — thanks for the clip! I checked your platform account and see that you’ve already made a Technique Critique. That’s exactly the right thing to do.
The main question here is chunking. Either you’re attempting to chunk the phrase and the synchronization isn’t working, or there isn’t really a chunking attempt happening yet. This is why “noodling” style clips are not great for teaching - we can’t tell which of those situations we’re looking at.
Since this is an older clip, I wouldn’t spend too much time trying to diagnose it. It may simply pre-date any deliberate synchronization or chunking work. There could also be a better tremolo motion available, but we would need current, clearer video to evaluate that.
Film an updated clip showing what your technique looks like now and attach it to your platform critique.
If possible, also include an example of a short, looped attempt at one specific pattern - not random soloing - so we can see what degree of hand sync is available. We’ll take a look there and help you determine the next step.
Gotcha, thanks Troy! The problem is I can’t start with speed at all though for an updated video. Is that an issue? Am I possibly reading too much into the “start with speed” scenario? Since I don’t have a strong, stable, fast tremolo to start with even though all my tests went well and were fast I’m having trouble choosing which one I’m supposed to go with first to build speed since none of them will translate fast to the guitar. Id like to do a form of dart thrower with Dsx so I suppose I’ll grind that one out to start. Do you or some of the ctc team do zoom calls ever? I’ve been working on this endlessly for 2 years and it doesn’t click for me so I think I need a teacher to help. I’ve tried Fiverr for some lessons but since they have a different picking technique than what I’m capable of it never worked. My Adhd doesn’t help either
I find myself quickly just watching the same videos over and over and trying to apply, but nothings shaking.
This is all good feedback – just include it in your TC. But we need updated video with the items I requested since the current clip is outdated. Show us the current motion so we can see what we’re working with here.