I would like some feedback on my USX technique

Hello, I’d like some help with my USX technique.

Naturally, I’m a DSX player, and I’ve been trying to change my technique to USX because I feel freer to use some of Eric Johnson’s licks, who is a big influence on me.

In this video, the recording isn’t very good; I had to improvise to try and record my hand.

But if possible, I would appreciate an analysis; I would be immensely grateful.

Thank you for reading this far.

Pick path looks DSX to me, any non-slow motion videos? :slightly_smiling_face:

I will try record now!

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It’s look like it’s DSX really.
I start the pattern with a downstroke. And when i go to the second try, i start with a upstroke and it’s waaay easier.

Do you have some tip to start doing USX? Any video or something? Thanks!

https://youtube.com/shorts/ocfcSvX_60o

I think that the best place to start is the Pickslanting Primer.

I have to ask, why do you want to change? If you reversed the pickstrokes, you would be able to play Eric Johnson licks without learning another technique.

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Damn, you have a killer motion dude! I second what @aliendough was saying, reverse the pickstrokes and you should be good, here’s a great tutorial:

You don’t really need USX unless you are wanting to learn some of Eric’s solos note for note and play them exactly like he did, Andy Wood uses DSX and is great at getting Eric’s vibe despite playing his lines completely differently :slight_smile:

If you are set on learning USX what happens if you start with your natural motion’s tremolo and try to maintain it as you slowly rotate your wrist to an USX postion with an obvious downward pickslant? Like this for example:

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You can use both, there is no reason to reject what you can already do and only have one.

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Thanks so much for the kind words!

I will practice my DSX as main motion and USX too. Thank you for the video!

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I learned wrist/forearm USX after being a DSX player for nearly 30 years. Pure wrist USX was not clicking for me because my body would just revert to DSX. Wrist/forearm USX was a different enough setup that my body saw it as something new & different. Your video looks like a pure wrist motion, try giving wrist/forearm a shot, the setup is quite different.

Side note, the conventional wisdom on CTC is that you should start at higher speeds so you don’t learn a motion that literally can’t go fast. FWIW, that didn’t work for me, fast speeds just made me revert to DSX. I learned the USX motion slowly and sped it up over time. At that time I could hold down 220 bpm DSX 16th’s for days so I had the knowledge of what a fluid motion should feel like and that really helped me avoid “wrong” USX motions that caused a lot of tension. It’s been 3 & 1/2 years since I first attempted to learn USX and I still cannot go beyond ~150 bpm with pure wrist USX even though I can do 240+ bpm wrist/forearm USX and wrist DSX. I think that goes to show that my pure wrist USX motion is the sort of motion you’re looking to avoid 'cause the speed cap on it is low.

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I will try to use the Wrist/Forearm setting on the USX, i just use the pulse for everything picked. That’s is why, maybe i’m more toward to DSX.

I second the wrist/forearm USX recommendation. I’ve been playing for around 16 and a half years now, and though I’ve known about escape motions for years, I didn’t get a working USX motion until somewhere around last December when I tried the wrist/forearm motion.

How I learned it (Looks extreme at first, but that’s just the start):
-Start with a heavily supinated wrist. Steve Morse levels of supination.
-Now introduce 45 degrees of wrist flexion. This will force the base of your palm to rise up from the bridge, but you’ll anchor the base of your pinky on the bridge instead.
-Now you can start picking. The motion is a mix of wrist deviation 2 o’clock motion and forearm rotation. The pick is very heavily slanted downwards (45 degrees roughly). The picking motion is also around 45 degrees up from the strings.

Try this on a single string first. For me it’s just as fast if not a bit faster than my USX 2 o’clock motion, and has slightly better endurance. Downsides are less control, and difficulty with muting the low strings since the base of the palm is in the air.

Once you get that going on a single string, you can start experimenting with string changes. You can also experiment with reducing wrist supination and wrist flexion to give more control, easier palm mutes, and make the switch from your natural DSX to the new USX less drastic. Getting rid of it is not necessarily something you must do though: I’ve noticed that I like using different levels of supination and flexion when playing different kinds of USX stuff. For tremolo picking stuff I use more supination and flexion, and for solo patterns with USX motions I use less supination and flexion.