Learning All The Alternate Picking Techniques

@Troy, I’ve always been curious about this but am just getting around now to ask you about it. Your job requires you to learn all the different motion mechanics of alternate picking such as primarily UWPS elbow, both UWPS and DWPS forearm rotation, wrist extension, flexion and deviation, and combinations of these well enough to demonstrate and explain each of them.

My questions are: Which was the most difficult for you to learn well enough so you could demonstrate it and how many weeks or months was it from the time you started working on it to the time you were ready to demonstrate it to your audience? Was picking using UWPS pick position much more difficult and time consuming than picking with the pick in a DWPS position?

This is an interesting question. “We” round here (Forum) are always speculating about what is the “best” picking mechanic. Probably there is no such thing as an universal best and/or easiest picking mechanic, but to to find out in a scientific manner one would have to compare icentical twins, that choose different mechanics and put in the same amount of effort. Or have lots of people learn different mechanics and compare the results. Or have some people learn all of them with equal dedication.

So even if Troy can answer, it wouldn’t mean a lot. But it sure is an interesting topic. I’m curious also.

In my opinion, it is a little like “which guitar/musician/music style is best”?

Which, in my opinion, is answered, “the one you feel fits best to your purpose”.

To me, I like dwps on strats, because of the bridge/guitar design. On Tune-o-matic/Gibson like bridges or acoustic guitar, I feel that there is better space for my hand, so I like a flatter approach, where the thumb and pinky heel touch the bridge and I slant the hand, when I need to do dwps or uwps.

But anyway, you have Eric Johnson (primary DWPS) and John McLaughlin (primary UWPS) - both are amazingly fast, so I don’t think there is much reason to think one is better or faster to learn.

Another thing that can come into play, is right hand muting strategies. What is needed in the musical context/style?

Yes, that’s what you think and it I’m sure it is sensible to do so, but from a scientific point of view we just don’t know :wink:

LOL, you are right of course. I guess I am questioning the questioning. There are so many questions we have to face as guitar players :exploding_head:

Sorry for the derailment

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I’m afraid you’ve misunderstood the question, or at least the reason for asking the question. It has absolutely nothing to do what is the most effective method of alternate picking. And for the record, I’m not trying to criticize you; what I am trying to do is ensure that my OP isn’t being misunderstood.

The question, which Troy certainly can answer if he wants, would mean something to me. It’s not vitally important that I find out the answer to the question but since this is a subject which interests me, it would mean something to me to know the answer.

I’m asking Troy because I don’t know of anyone else who has done what he has done, which is learn all these different ways of alternate picking. Most people have no reason to learn all or even most of the ways of picking Troy has learned. Most people don’t have any reason to keep learning different ways to pick once they’ve mastered one of the ways.

So, to reiterate my original questions:

  1. Which of the various motion mechanics for alternate picking was the most difficult for you to learn well enough so you could demonstrate it.

  2. How many weeks or months was it from the time you started working on it to the time you were ready to demonstrate it to your audience?

  3. Was picking using UWPS (original CTC definition) much more difficult and time consuming than DWPS? How long did it take to become proficient enough at UWPS that you felt comfortable demonstrating it on video to your audience?

To me, it would be interesting to know which one was the most difficult to learn. I asked question 3 because of the following: Since from the Masters In Mechanics material, it seems to me that Troy’s original method involved a DWPS pick position and the pick trajectory most commonly associated with DWPS, I’d like to know how long it took to go from being a primarily DWPS player to being able to pick in an UWPS method (original CTC definition of UWPS picking).

I’ve tried them all… and the most difficult mechanic to learn is ironically the current one I use. It uses rotation, finger/thumb movement (similar to M.Miller) and wrist movement (both types).

It took about a year to get it down to the point where I felt comfortable using it exclusively and at performance level. But I am still tweaking it 2 years on.

UWPS was VERY difficult for me to learn… but that’s just me. I never felt confident with my 2WPS, in the same way that others do. So I rarely went to UWPS, and tried to stay with DWPS.

But now I’ve really abandoned both… and just do X-picking. (which took me 2 years to get to a fairly comfortable level)

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