Some simple math about guitar completionism. (Spoiler: it is bad for you)

Hi All,
As part of the work I did for Synchronicity, I had “fun” calculating the number of “common fretting combinations” you might find on a guitar neck, if you restrict yourself with single-string shapes with a maximum span of 6 frets.

Here’s the exec summary for a 6-string guitar with 22 frets:
about 20 common shapes x 6 strings x approx 19 starting points (some stretchy shapes need to start a bit lower than 19th, others can start at 20th, semitone at 21st) = 2280 shapes. Say 2000 with some optimistic rounding.

If you spent even just 10 seconds “practicing” each, you’d spend 20000s ~ 5.5 hrs on it.

And this is just for single-string stuff!

I’ve been thinking a bit of a concept I’m calling “1 big guitar”.

Basically 4 nps scales starting from either F or F# on the low E string, topping out on A or Ab on the high E string. Starting each scale from the low F and ending on the high A.

Point being each note has only one place to play it on the fingerboard. It sort of puts the guitars into a 5th tuning. I’ve only been messing with it for a little while but it’s interesting. I want to try site reading in it as I think it would take away the issue of reading on the guitar where every note is in 5 places…

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There certainly are a lot of combinations, but I have some issues with the analysis here.

There’s a lot of redundancy in this counting, moving a pattern to an adjacent string or fret hardly qualifies as a “new” pattern.

The question then is what defines two movement patterns as “the same” or “different.” According the the textbooks on motor control and learning that I have read, movements are considered equivalent if certain invariant features are preserved.

At the most basic level, the invariants include

  1. Action sequence.
  2. Relative timing
  3. Relative force

The action sequence is the set of actions to be performed in the temporal order in which they are to be performed.

The relative timing refers to the time between actions in the action sequence as a proportion of the duration of the full sequence. The overall duration of the full sequence may be increased or decreased, resulting in slower or faster execution (respectively) and extending and contracting (respectively) the time between actions proportionally. However, the relative timing must remain (approximately) constant.

The relative force refers to the magnitude of the forces involved in the actions in the action sequence relative to each other. The overall force of the full sequence may be increased or decreased, with the relative forces of the sequential actions increasing or decreasing proportionally. However, the relative force must remain constant.

Many other features of movement are variant and can be varied quite significantly.

In a musical context, relative timing and relative force describe rhythm. Rhythm is invariant.

Suppose we start with the basic example of an ascending 6

|-------------|
|-------------|
|-------6-7-9-|
|-6-7-9-------|
|-------------|
|-------------|
  1 2 4 1 2 4

Any pattern which shares the underlying movement invariants is considered equivalent. We have a lot of freedom in how we can alter the variants provided the invariants are preserved. I find it helpful to think of this as an “elastic deformation.” We need to preserve directions, but not distances.

The fret or string we begin on is variant, so we can move the ascending 6 to different locations on the fretboard. The half-whole pattern in variant, so we can change the specific intervals.

For example, we can have

|-------------|
|-------------|
|-------------|
|-------3-5-7-|
|-3-5-7-------|
|-------------|
  1 2 4 1 2 4 

Is still fundamentally the same movement pattern. More than that, we can vary the number of strings crossed, so something like

|-------------------|
|----------10-12-15-|
|-------------------|
|-10-12-15----------|
|-------------------|
|-------------------|
  1  2  4  1  2  4

is also equivalent.

This is what I mean by a rudiment – A musically transferrable rhythmic coordination.

This is one of the main reasons I’m opposed to the classic “spider” permutation exercises. There are 24 possible permutations. Very few of them transfer to musically relevant shapes on the fretboard, and even then, the transfer is very limited.

Even if we ignore the fact that these exercises demand fretting postures which are suboptimal for actual playing, the movement patterns trained are fundamentally inequivalent those required in actual playing. It’s junk practice volume with almost no return on time invested.

It’s much more benefical to develop a vocabulary of rudiments that are naturally applicable to the types of fretboard figures that occur in music (2-note per string and 3 note per string scale shapes, arpeggios, triads and spread triads, etc) and which transfer broadly within those types.

If we restrict to patterns of length 4 with the first note accented (i.e., 16th note groups), three fingers on a single string, and assume a (1 2 4) finger combination, we find the following digital sequences.

Type 1

1214, 2141, 1412, 4121,
2124, 1242, 2421, 4212,
4142, 1424, 4241, 2414.

Type 2

1241, 2411, 4112, 1124,
2142, 1422, 4221, 2214,
4124, 1244, 2441, 4412. 

As we can see above, Type 1 patterns do not involve the immediate reuse of a finger, while the Type 2 patterns all involve a reuse. In this way, Type 1 patterns naturally move across strings within a position, and the Type 2 patterns naturally shift across positions.

Some will notice that these each line of patterns involves the same sequence, but with an offset starting point. These patterns are not equivalent! Optimisation of these patterns involves different situational fretting mechanics (notably the reveal and the rock that I’ve described before), and more importantly, they’re not rhythmically equivalent because of the location of the accented note. The invariants are not preserved!

Also, depending on our anatomy, we can subsitute in a different combination relatively easily. We may be able to use (1 2 3) like Shawn Lane and Yngwie Malmsteen, or we may be able to use (1 3 4) like Paul Gilbert. You’ll know immediately which subsitution is naturally afforded to you.

So we’re left with 24 patterns which naturally apply to any 3 note per string figure on the guitar. We have no reduction in practice volume compared to the spider exercises, but every single one of the patterns described will transfer to a class of musically valuable fretboard figures, and will transfer broadly within that class.

If you absolutely must practice single string permutations, I think it makes much more sense to practice these patterns instead. I’m very comfortable with some, and not so comfortable with others. I’m not particularly interested in completing the set either, I’d rather spend my time working on other rudiments that I find more interesting, and making lines with them.

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I may not have explained myself very clearly, I totally agree that my simple calculation has a lot of redundancy, and in fact my point was to argue against completionism and “junk volume” - so if I’m understanding your post correctly, we are arguing similar points :slight_smile:

Let me clarify further.

Say we have the half-whole shape: e.g. frets -5-6-8-. Even just restricting to single-string usage of this shape, and considering the first 12 frets and 6 strings, I have 72 possible “locations”.

Now, as you point out, I can play a wide variety of melodic patterns using the half-whole shape. I could do 5-6-8-5-6-8, or -5-6-8-6-, etc.

So, if you try to do the “completionist” thing, multiply 72 by however many patterns you want to study. And that’s just one shape.

It’s clear that trying to do “everything” quickly becomes impractical. Plus, you learn exactly zero songs in the process :slight_smile:

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Could definitely be a cool trick to speed up sight reading! Let us know how that goes if you develop it further. But before investing too much time on it, it might also be worth studying how violin players approach sight reading, since they also have strings with repeated notes but are on average much better than guitar players at reading. Some ideas might translate, I don’t know.

However, from a mechanical standpoint it is very likely that not everything will be easy (or possible) to execute in the 4nps system. It may be that the 4nps system gives you a quicker way to locate the notes on the fretboard, but then you may still have to move some notes to different strings for mechanical reasons.

I understand that. I’m saying the half/whole shape and those 72 starting positions aren’t invariants. They’re all fundamentally equivalent movement patterns.

If we classify by movement invariants, all that matters are sequence and rhythm. From this perspective, there is no completion.

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