long story short. ive never been confident about my tone. Then again, ive never chased tone or spent much time on it. mainly ive just played and recorded demos etc…worrying more about playing writing, learning to sing blah blah
Im talking mainly rhythm tone here
So lets talk about my tone situation. I am one of them there apartment dwellers. A QUIET apt complex lol. My main recording amp is a 6505+ combo (60 watts). yes, so you can bet it never gets turned up above 1. So we are talking pre amp gain and/or pedals for distortion.
In other words im not getting power amp distortion and im not really moving any air so no speaker cone vibe etc. Naturally im wondering how much better my tone can be than what ive generally had so far.
Amp sims have been sort of a bust for me so im not interested in those right now.
At some point I will be wanting to do an album. I will be sending it off to be mixed/mastered by pro or semi pro people. (my mixing skills suck as u will soon hear lol)
Though its hard to exactly say what tone I want, we are talking just a decent rock/hard rock/light metal/grunge type tone. Anything in the sort of AIC, Zakk, Halen, Soundgarden, Sykes era Whitesnake type vibe.
I’ll post some examples of my tone. I cant swear but I think these will all be with the 6505+, sometimes with various pedals and of course me hacking away with the mixing. Most of these are with an Ibanez RG3EX with .11s tuned to D standard. Lately though im playing my RG340 with 10s. Most of my playing will be in D standard.
Like I said, im no Einstein when it comes to tone. Mine seems to me to sometimes lean towards fuzzy as opposed to punchy. So, if I wanted to do anything in the Zakk Wylde vein im not sure I could because my tone isnt tight like that, mine is more bluesy and fuzzy. Can I get that tight metal vibe as an option in an apt? lol
so here are the main questions/options im mulling:
My tone is good enough, get a decent tone and let the mixer polish the whole recording??
Use an attenuator. is this going to actually make a significant difference or will it just be more fuzziness etc?
Use an isolation speaker cab to actually get some air moving?
buy a smaller amp. Id want something a bit ballsier than a Layla/Skynyrd type tone. Ceriatone, Friedman? I know there r dozens of boutique amps out there now. What wattage though? Im pretty sure even a 22 watter would still blow my neighbors away if I cranked it lol
So can I get a great tone at apt volume or is it hopeless? lol
or, will none of the things ive suggested make more than a 5% difference? will it mainly come down to having a better mixer mix the stuff?
here are some examples of my basic tone. Most from 2017. I suppose the defining factor is being tuned to D standard which gives a certain resonance. Note, im not saying I love any of these tones lol…they are just typical for me. Some of them are probably doubletracked
I think this one had a Joyo Ultimate Drive pedal on it. sort of a ‘Tales of Brave Ulysses’ bridge sound
Bonham 87 Roomy mp3 gtr.mp3 (9.1 MB)
This is one that, at the time (2017) , I thought was a nice step forward from some of the more sucky things I had done. Slight Randy Rhoads bridge vibe. But isnt this all still about the same type of tone?
Stone 89 Mark A 2017 scratch.mp3 (9.5 MB)
This is more of where I want to go as far as writing. Just slightly more towards groove metal type stuff
Sykes feel 93 bpm 10 25 17 mp3 snippet.mp3 (1.2 MB)
sort of in context with some singing and bass etc.
Shining on Me Pig Wars 92 hook practice 2017 scr mix 5.mp3 (1.8 MB)
So I think the playing and tone sort of go together. We notice my playing is more sort of groove oriented and doesnt really 'drive" that much. But can one really play tight, driving riffs with a sort of fuzzy tone?
this tone in an apt??
or this one?