I have been trying to achieve a USX with wrist supination for about 4 months now and really just can’t seem to get the hang of it. My mind is tell my wrist to slant the pick, and to my forearm to rotate back and forth for the picking tremolo. Unfortunately, as you can see…
Perhaps others have been through this?
Sounding and looking pretty good in the first video!
Do you have an alternative picking technique that works better than this? i.e are you normally a DSX dominate player?
If you haven’t already, it might be useful to try some single string tremolo to a beat or metronome just to get a feel for your current speed level and comfort zone.
I was DSX dominate and tending to tilt my wrist in a reverse dart throwing motion
That looks nice and fluid to me. Keep in mind, the majority of USX patterns can easily be played with DSX by just starting on an upstroke.
The general CTC suggestion would be to go with whatever motion you already have (DSX for example) and then work on refining it.
If you just pick 16 notes (four notes per beat) on a single string is there a speed difference for you?
This is with DSX
I do feel a difference. The DSX is more natural but I get caught up in changes. I want to be fluid in USX.
If fluid playing is the goal, I’d rather double down on that nice DSX motion you got going on. Bear in mind that neither USX or DSX fix technical challenges any better than the other.
Fluid playing with USX is the goal.
What technical challenges are you referring to/noticing?
That your DSX seems way more solid than your USX.
I think the important question is: is there anything you want to achieve with USX that DSX can’t get you or it’s just an arbitrary notion that USX somehow is the better technique?
Everyone on Reddit for the past half decade says I sound like garbage when I play so I chose the Yngwie way.
I also love the way Joe Stump plays. Blackmore is a mount Rushmore. I want to just envelope myself with all this. Rainbow, Deep Purple, Dio, Ratt, Gary Moore, and most importantly absolutely taking this to my idea vision of songs I want re-envision. Like Randy Jackson said, take that song and make it your own dawg.
I also need a new guitar to achieve this because some songs are in standard and that’s already in the works right now.
Also, almost everyone on Reddit say you should practice slow and with small movement to achieve speed (which is factually false). Don’t let social media toxicity get in the way of success.
Back to technique, is this DSX or USX? or more importantly, does it sound right?
Out of all that. 0:25 - 0:50 is what I want. What do u think? USX
Well, Jeff Loomis playing is basically reverse Yngwie ie. neoclassical DSX (besides the other incredible stuff he does). You can see that it works and it’s not just a “workaround”.
USX is not a “cure” for anything. It’s just one way of doing things, just like DSX, with which you have unlocked a lot of potential already, in my opinion.
Jeff is a DSX dominant player
But then I play dsx at any time and people say I suck ass. Then I see tons of dudes ripping with the USX system (not on reddit but on YouTube mainly). I can spot that grip now.
I just want to be able to do both. And then I guess I can pick which one? I thank you for the compliment, and forgive me not taking it well since I’m used to being laughed at then just giving up. Horrendous to say, but it’s true. I’m going to accomplish this. It’s going to happen. It’s all going to work.
Who’s saying you suck ass? Fuck them, that’s not useful information whatsoever.
The “picking” video sounds great to me
Lots of posters on reddit guitar subs. Everything I post or insight is argued it’s wrong and my playing sucks. Maybe I should just post here from now on since you guys have positive attitudes.
We’re a weird bunch, but we’re not mean, that’s for sure! And advice given here has much better than replacement chance of being useful 
I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with that kind of people online. They suck and I’d dare say communities like this forum are so special because as far as I can tell we all would rather practice picking for 3 hours than bully strangers over the Internet. We’re the constructive kind of weird. 
Back to playing, of course you can experiment with as many motions and techniques as you wish but in terms of playing to your strengths, your DSX does NOT suck and shows a lot of potential, and you can explore USX on the side while you develop the technique that’s giving you the most gains.
I wish my picking was half as good as yours when I joined here LOL.
I was in a very similar position. I liked DSX, but was curious about USX and wanted to see if I could make it work equally well. After all, Troy seems fantastic at both in his videos.
I’m now in a position where I only practice USX, and feel I have taken it further than where my DSX was. Initially, USX felt difficult and awkward and I wasn’t getting results. The reason was that while my DSX was nicely pronated and a good reverse dart thrower motion (RDT), my USX at the time was more like pure deviation and not comparable. By changing my right hand into a supinated dart-thrower (DT) angle and resting my pinky on the body as a support (like the kickstand on a motorcycle), I was able to begin tremolo picking at speeds that began to match (then later exceed) my DSX. After a while, I was able to replicate that into patterns that crossed strings, and I didn’t look back. But this will not be something that clicks after 5 minutes if you have spent significant time practicing DSX. You need to give it some time for adaptation.
Some thoughts on the idea that USX and DSX are identical other than being mirror images of each other :
This is probably different to most responses you will get, but at least you have a different data point to consider. I wanted to offer it because I think I faced exactly the same challenges you did (and fixed it with a more supinated motion stabilised with a light-touch movable pinky anchor).