Watched some of @Troy 's videos and picked up a bit on DWPS and 2WPS. I haven’t had much problem with DWPS, but whenever I try 2WPS, and I need to slant the pick upwards, I slow down considerably. I am quite new to the concept so I might just need to practice a lot more, but it seems that I haven’t been able to speed up my upward pick slanting in the past week that I’ve practiced. What I mean is when using 2WPS, I am fine while slanting downwards, but when I rotate upwards, I slow down to around 70ish per cent of my original speed. Is there any way I can practice my upward pick slanting to speed it up, or is it just a matter of getting used to the feel of it?
Well, I have a completely opposite problem. I feel more comfortable, accurate, and faster with UWPS. I didn’t think too much about it. UWPS is my primary pickslanting and I thought it is rather natural that I feel more…natural with it
So, this post didn’t really offer much help, sorry. I though I would just let you know that you are not alone with this kind of problem
By the way, check if your picking motion stays the same with both variants of pickslanting. It’s possible that you use different body parts to initiate picking movement with different pickslanting setups. For example, you may use mostly forearm rotation for DWPS but for UWPS - perhaps mostly wrist deviation. So perhaps not only the orientation of your hand is totally alien to you, but also the motion mechanic itself. In that case, it’s no wonder that you are not as proficient in new ways as compared to the old ways
Hah, perhaps I did offer some help after all
Yeah, give it some time. I think eventually you will get up to speed on it. I think it’s more of a long-term skill that you will develop.
Try playing pentatonic type runs and when you go back the opposite way for the three notes on the turn around it’ll force you to go with the opposite pick slant on the way back up or down depending on where you start. it’s s good way to blend the two approaches I find
I found doing chromatic exercises where you switch strings on an upstroke, helped bed in the UWPS motion. One of the other issues that I encounter is that I over-do the UWPS. By ensuring that I only do enough UWPS to clear the string plane, it feels a lot closer to DWPS, it feels a lot smaller/quicker. I am also trying to bake in the method of returning to DWPS asap. Again this limits the time spent in UWPS.
Used to the feel of what? That’s a key question. What I mean is that pickslanting techniques are not just the pick looking like it has a certain orientation. They are actually different movements. For upward pickslanting, you have several choices. Elbow is one. Wrist is another, but it has a couple variants based on the arm position you use, whether that’s supinated or pronated. And for each of these movements, you set up the arm and hand on the guitar and then move it along a particular path. That’s what it takes to “do” pickslanting correctly.
I get that it may not be so clear from watching our stuff why “pickslanting” might feel one way or another, and I will take the blame for that! But if you simply imagine that there are three or four common kinds of picking motion that all share the label “upward pickslanting”, then it becomes a lot easier to imagine what’s involved in doing them.
No, they are not any generally any slower than the family of downward pickslanting movements. In fact, the absolute fastest players we have filmed have been upward pickslanting players, using a particular type of very rapid elbow motion which we’re just beginning figure out. It’s not related to upward pickslanting per se, it’s just the elbow itself which appears to have this ability when moved a certain way.
We’re finishing up editing some Andy Wood for the platform now and he’s a textbook example of how to do one of the most common wrist upward pickslanting movements.