A quest for Jimi Hendrix’s faster-playing style solutions

Hi, all! I’ve gotten curious recently about my personal favorite guitar hero, Jimi Hendrix, on a more technical level than I’ve looked at him via before, but I’m running into a challenge:

The vast wealth of resources on Hendrix’s style are essentially capped at an “intermediate” level of technical analysis.

It’s been explored to death that Hendrix used his thumb, favored double-stops, [blah, blah]. For a very passable facsimile of his style, those surface-level details are all you need, since he never really hit the kind of speeds where CTC-type technical knowledge is even needed. You can successfully play Hendrix’s lick vocabulary “verbatim” with a wide variety of movement solutions—and this is exactly the problem: because it’s easy enough to play anyway, there seems to be zero analysis of how he actually played it.

Why do you even care about this? Just play his licks however you want.

Getting this one out of the way to hopefully streamline discussion: I can already play his licks just fine. I’m interested in his style and how it influenced his playing. Things like hand position and mechanics influence note choices, and I want to understand how his mechanics affected his choices. It’s more about understanding the player than the playing.

Do we have a starting point?

It’s been previously documented that Hendrix was a (primarily) USX player with substantial downward pickslant and (surprisingly) trailing-edge picking, with Fender medium celluloid picks and a supinated hand position. He did have a lot of variability in his picking, rotating his forearm (to a DSX/UPS position) for short sweeps and rakes, and he would pretty freely move his pick up and down along the strings for showmanship purposes and to change the harmonic content of the note.

For his right (fretting) hand, his chord strategies and thumb are the most documented aspects. Independently, I’ve noticed two things that I haven’t seen described elsewhere: he seems to have used a leverage-based rotary vibrato technique a la BB King, and (more interestingly for my purposes) he used his second (middle) finger for FAR more three-fret stretches than most players. His very pronated fretting hand angle meant that his second and third finger had almost the same reach, and I suspect that this synergy is at the root of a lot of his phrasing. (Side note: sometimes, his pinkie visibly curls behind the fretboard while he plays, thereby giving a heart attack to every guitar teacher ever.)

So what are you asking about, exactly?

Does anybody have any insights into his hand mechanics for his faster phrases? There aren’t a ton of readily-available examples of that fast playing, although I found a reddit thread where somebody had linked a few time stamps of some of his faster live licks.

I know the answer may be “no,” and I have to just scour video until I can find clear enough examples to give me the answers I’m looking for. But on the off-chance anybody has any clues, I’ll be very grateful.

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This answer is likely not as specific as you would have liked - and since you’ve already delved into all that is available, you’re probably already familiar with it -, but I have learnt a lot from the live performance in Stockholm. The quality of the images is good, especially considering the time of the recording. And you get a good view of his right hand in faster passages. Amongst other things, his sweep is demonstrated.

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That’s cool that he did sweeping

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I did, ages ago, find a live video of Jimi playing that featured some great close up picking hand footage of his “Red House” style blues lick - the (in B) bend the G string 9th fret, then follow it with the B string 7th and e string 7th, then a 10-7 pull off on the B. You could see a pronounced downward slant, and he definitely swept the three ascending notes, which really helps get the very slurred feel he plays that run with.

I think it may be no longer online, but I was so excited about the footage I immediately posted up about it here. :rofl:

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@drew did you notice trailing edge as well? Also new info for me lol

I didn’t, and no one commented on it in the thread:

…where the videos have, indeed, been taken down.

Someone shared the video from his acosutic “Hear My Train a ‘Comin’” performance which does have some good picking hand video as well, and maybe slight trailing edge, at least while playing acoustic seated? Doesn’t necessarily translate to standing posture, but…

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This has actually been very helpful! I had been looking specifically at the video of Red House from that Stockholm show, but once you pointed this out, I looked up the whole concert. I think it probably has enough good clips that I can start to draw some conclusions. So, thanks! Great tip.

I’ve continued to study and experiment with Hendrix’s (apparent) mechanics this week, and I’ve been noticing some interesting things just in my own playing:

  • It’s pretty tough to get a fast, consistent tremolo with his picking hand technique. The grip on the pick doesn’t have as much strength as most of the other styles I’ve tried. But I think Hendrix might have just actually had a fairly slow top tremolo speed. There are examples in his music of his tremolo, and it’s frankly just never that fast.

  • However, what that pick grip DOES get is a sense of “looseness” that translates to REALLY easy pick flips for reversing direction after a sweep. I already suspect that the main driver of his fastest playing is going to be legato combined with sweep mechanics; the pick grip seems to support that.

  • His pronated fretting hand and use of the second finger for longer stretches than usual does seem to “suggest” or “enable” some of his idiosyncratic note choices during solos. I don’t have a clear way to articulate this yet, but the second and third finger have some interesting interactions when you use both of them for longer pentatonic stretches.

I’ll continue to post updates here if and when I can learn more!

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It was neither especially fast, nor especially even. Purple Haze is a great example, with the Octavia outro part - it’s fast, it’s cool sounding, it’s groovy… but it’s not THAT fast (as a kid just trying to learn this stuff I never felt like the picking for that part was out of reach, whereas a lot of the fretting hand stuff rook some work) nor is it, while in the pocket, mechanically tight. It worked but he definitely pushed and pulled things a bit.

Should start right at the octavia part. He’s sort of “pulsing” the tempo, to my ears.

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Yeah! Solid example. I think also of some of the soloing over the outro of “Gypsy Eyes,” where he does a bit of tremolo playing. I’d characterize his tremolo, generally, as “relaxed” instead of intense. Playing around with his picking mechanics, it seems like it would be pretty much impossible, or at least pointlessly hard, to get much faster tremolo without altering some aspect of the picking hand technique.

His fretting hand, on the [literal] other hand, is pretty dang fast by anybody’s standards, especially once you consider that he’s basically never doing 3nps phrases. The number of fretting actions per second is impressive.

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When you discuss “tremolo” here, I’m not sure what you mean? When I hear “tremolo” in the context of picking I think of tremolo picking like Van Halen tremolo picking the Kreutzer etude melody and I don’t hear that type of tremolo picking in the outro soloing on “Gypsy Eyes”. Unless you are using “tremolo” as another way to say “fast picking”?

I love the topic by the way…this kind of stuff is right up my alley. I love Hendrix and as was said, his playing style is pretty easily grasped, even his faster passages are nowhere near the type of speeds that this site was created to address. But I totally get why the actual mechanics of what Hendrix did is absolutely worthy of study…even if you never perform a single Hendrix song live in any context, I think seeking this kind of knowledge can lead to an even deeper appreciation of the material as a listener and as a guitar player.

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That’s great that you are studying Hendrix’s technique carefully! I love his technique, though I have not studied it in the detail I believe you are studying it. (Caveat: I’m about to make a couple observations that many here may disagree with, and I do not mean to say that I am right - just expressing my personal aesthetic tastes.) Two things that I think are underemphasized by many guitarists are feel and sound. Feel generally seems quite connected to right hand looseness - I realize that many shred folks love music where the guitarist has an incredibly stiff rigid picking style, but that often just feels tense and kind of ugly to me. Check out how extremely loose and relaxed Hendrix’s picking hand and arm are - I’ve never seen that looseness in any Hendrix imitators, incidentally. (A couple other examples of beautifully relaxed picking in different styles: George Benson and, though not quite in Hendrix territory, Prince). Similarly, sound is much more shaped by the details of how the pick attacks the string than I think most guitarists are aware - and Hendrix played with a wonderful variety of sounds. There are certain guitarists whose fretting hand is so strong that it kind of “covers” for their weaker picking hand, and I’m not saying that was true of Hendrix, but just pointing out that, with his big strong hands and long fingers, his fretting hand was remarkably powerful. Please share with us more of your detailed discoveries as you make them, studying the existing videos!

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